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Wednesday, June 24, 2015

The Mayberry Connection

Most times, I am enjoying the Mayberry life. There are those moments, however, where I wish the town would get out of 1950. Ok. Maybe up to at least 1949. Getting out of 1950 might be too futuristic too fast. One year at a time, folks, one year at a time. Wait. We might be up to 1960. At least that is when The Andy Griffith show aired.

Yes. They do live! It is not just a television show.

It just so goes that Fargo has had several opportunities to debate things with the local law enforcement. It brings for interesting and offensive conversation. I think you have to talk about issues to progress forward and come to compromise. I think you have to be uninhibited about hiding your feelings and whether you are politically correct. If you can't get someone to bring up the bowels of their emotions, minds, thoughts, and ideas...then we will never go forward. So even though some of what they said is offensive, to understand them and to move forward, you have to get it out. And, sometimes you can't change the spots on a Dalmatian.

Just to clarify, these local yocals also double as business owners, the city water people, electricians, the local carpenter, the sewer people, and the mechanic. I am pretty sure if they can't fix it all, they won't hire you. No wonder I never applied. They are very intelligent and mechanical people. They are somewhat sheltered from hustle and bustle and probably watch the news about 1 day a week. Perhaps they don't know all the worldly changes, but I did introduce them to some good rap music.

They don't have a princess category on the town force...like...ANYWHERE. It's rather disturbing. So therefore, I will never apply.

Anyway, some of our conversations have been quite interesting. Let me share. That way, you can be as baffled and mystified as me.

The Debate Over The Confederate Flag

Mayberry: I don't see why all these folks is getting in an uproar about the Confederate flag. It doesn't signify hate. It is a part of history. It's the battle flag. All the flags are offensive if you put it that way. The US flag stood for the same thing.


Fargo: The US Flag stood for fighting for certain state rights including slavery? We all know the 50 stars represent the fifty states.

Mayberry: America fought everyone. It is no different. We should get rid of it, then, too.

Fargo: Wow. Are you sure about that? You sound like a pouting teenager. Let me Google the meaning of the US flag for you: "The colors of the pales (the vertical stripes) are those used in the flag of the United States of America; White signifies purity and innocence, Red, hardiness & valour, and Blue, the color of the Chief (the broad band above the stripes) signifies vigilance, perseverance & justice.The star is a symbol of the heavens and the divine goal to which man has aspired from time immemorial; the stripe is symbolic of the rays of light emanating from the sun."

Mayberry: That's a bunch of bunk. 

Fargo: Ok. Well, if Google says it is so. I see nothing in there about slavery.


Mayberry: I think everyone is getting ridiculous over the Confederate flag. They want to take away history. Everything is not about race. What about the General Lee? Are they going to ban the Dukes of Hazzard?

*face palm*

Dukes of Hazzard television series: CBS

Fargo: I understand part of your point is that we need to talk about our history because it is there and it cannot be erased. The Civil War was real. By the way, The Dukes of Hazzard was produced by CBS, a bunch of liberals.


Mayberry: That was before CBS were liberals. We can't erase history. The Democrats want to erase things and instead of looking at where we came from, where we need to go, they want to erase everything they don't agree with.

Fargo: They aren't erasing the Confederate flag. They are just wanting it taken down off the capitol lawn. Some think it has been used by those who fly it out of hate and it offends some who think it represents the state's fight for slavery, the battle flag representing what the south fought for and part of that was slavery. They don't think South Carolina represents that anymore. Although South Carolina was fighting for other state rights, the one everyone remembers is slavery. If it offends the majority of the people of South Carolina, why not put it in a museum? I don't know. It's their state. The only flag I care about is the US flag. What is it going to hurt to put it in a museum?

Mayberry: It's taking away heritage. The next thing you know, they will take down the US flag and make it a rainbow flag.

*face palm*

Fargo: The Confederates were Democrats.

Mayberry: Well, do away with that damn Confederate flag then.


The Debate Over Gay Marriage and Religious Freedom Act

Mayberry: We need to stop the gays from winning.

*record scratch*

Fargo: What?

Say what? Is there a race I didn't enter?

Mayberry: They cannot have marriage. I am upset Indiana bowed down on the Religious Reformation Act. They should not have to bake cakes. A Christian business can't even be a Christian business. What if people get mad because the Christian bookstore doesn't sell the Muslim bible?

Fargo: Whoa! Whoa! Stop right there. (pointing my finger) We are talking about people. They are entitled to human rights. First you are arguing several different things. Let's start with the gay marriage thingy or civil union or whatever you want to call it. Maybe at the start of history, it was not considered a right. Times have changed. Now it ties a bunch of privileges,freedoms with rights. If you deny purple people from marrying orange people, you are denying the same basic freedoms. AT one time the government wanted to prevent interracial marriages. Do you believe that is OK or not OK? You are preventing a right which a group of demographics feel they should be entitled to and give reason behind it. Along with the belief they should be able to be bonded in marriage, it also gives them property rights in America, rights to benefits, and taxation parameters.

Mayberry: But they are going against God. Marriage is only between a man and a woman. They live in sin.

Fargo: So are you.


Mayberry: Ok. You have a point.

Fargo: Some people believe marriage is a godly union between only a man and a woman and the vows are tied with religious beliefs. Some do not. You can believe your way, I can believe mine. John Doe can believe his way. Some believe a sin is a sin and ministers marry a man and woman sinners together and cannot judge if it is the same sex sinners. Some people might show their sins in public, others do not. Marriage has now intertwined into financial issues, benefits, taxes, and property rights. You can't have one without the other thanks to the good 'ol U.S. of A. Now on your business thingy. A cake business is selling goods: wedding cakes. They cannot refuse business even if they are a Christian business. It is discrimination and a violation of federal law.

Mayberry: The business owners are Christians! They are being told to go against their religious beliefs.

Fargo: Yes, I know they are Christians. But gays can be Christians too. The business owners don't get to judge. They get to sell cakes.

Mayberry: But the gays live in sin.

Fargo: So do you.

Mayberry: Gah. I should not have to sell a cake if I don't believe in them.

Fargo: What the fuck are you talking about? We just agreed a sin is a sin.

Mayberry: I should not have to contribute to their delinquency.

Fargo: I should not contribute to yours. Give me that beer. You have had too many.

Mayberry: That's not the same.

Fargo: Yes it is. We all sin every day.

Mayberry: What are we going to do when the Muslims tell us we have to sell their bibles in the Christian bookstore?

Fargo: You don't have to. A Christian bookstore only sells Christian Bibles. They can get a Muslim book at a store which sells those. A Christian bookstore does not have to carry books of every religion. They cannot be forced to shelve all these products in their inventory. Now if they refuse to sell a Christian bible to a gay person or another person, that is against the law.

(big sigh)

Mayberry: I still don't think it is right.

Fargo: Too bad.


The Debate Over Presidential Candidates

Mayberry: I think I like that Donald Trump. He says it like it is and doesn't let anyone push him around. I mean he has great ideas and he will make people carry them out.

Fargo: You don't think the Republican candidates are coming out like Shriner clowns?

Mayberry: I don't even know what that is.

Fargo: I agree Trump says it like he feels and he is a great businessman. But presidential? Plus will he ever be able to work in a team environment? And even though I can disregard his arrogant, brash nature, can everyone else? And build a wall and have Mexico pay for it? He insulted every Hispanic probably. I agree that our infrastructure is failing and we need to build up business and prosperity in the nation. You know the majority of people only heard that Donald Trump was going to make them rich.

Mayberry: I don't know. I just know I like him.

Fargo: But Hillary is evil.

Mayberry: Hillary is evil.

Fargo: Let's raise our class to that!

Mayberry: Hear! Hear!



Tennessee Grammie said...

I had some of those same conversations when Mayberry was here, closer to the original MAYBERRY. Except without the beer... lol

Well Seasoned Fool said...

You are a brave woman. Too bad you don't know your place in Mayberry!
(Show WSF ducking and running - well, waddling anyway).

lotta joy said...

The ONLY thing I almost, kind of, sorta, like about Trump (and I DO hate the man) is when I think of the lobbyist buying votes. It would take a buttload of money to buy Trump off. He has a price. Everyone in politics does. His would just be astronomical. I don't trust him. I don't trust ANYONE.

Bob G. said...

Momma Fargo:
Now you've done it...got me more confused than when I woke the hell up today.
I agree with about 80% of what both YOU and MAYBERRY had to say, so you can see how that can make even MY brain hurt...lol.
I will say you get your point across better though.

Good post.

Roll sage down there, dear.

Coffeypot said...

I agree with this man. If the Confederate Battle Flag offends anyone and must be removed, the same logic must be applied to African American statues including those of MLK. They should be removed because they offend some people. Keep it even, folks.


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